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Move on to the 250 Box challenge. Practice ghosting and ellipses daily to improve it.

Also maybe some superimposed lines (which is basically ghosting as well) to get more comfortable and accurate with lineweight.

Also post updates from time to time about the boxes, so that people can give you feedback and maybe some useful tips, if you have troubles constructing the boxes.

Ok, mybad in this case, didn't read that. (Although in my defence: in the video he doesn't state it as optional, which is why I mixed things up a bit)

Regarding the lineweight: you can see in the exercise that some of the lines stop to only outline the visible part of the box, which is why I interpreted it as lineweight (tried to show you here)

In the end this is up to crimera. Only he knows if it was meant as lineweight or not. Having multiple views of different users is the best thing in this case. Take whatever critique is right for you ;)

What I wanted to say is: if you do reviews of lesson 1 in the future (mainly addressed toward EpicGamer, but also to crimera of course), keep in mind that lesson one is not about accuracy. At least not as a primary goal. Pay more attention to smoothness of lines and confident linework, then mention to work on accuracy.

Very nice, well done!

Overall I agree with Iarinam and wanted to add some things that might help you.

What I think the Problem is, is that accuracy has been prioritized over smoothness.

This can be seen in in various places:

• Ghosted Planes: there's now overshooting/undershooting. The lines are always hitting the mark but they are quite wobbly. (This indicates you're going too slow and try to focus on producing an accurate Line that hit's the mark perfectly)

• Table of Ellipses: Lines are basically always touching the boundaries and neighboured ellipses but aren't drawn with a confident motion.

• Ellipses in Planes: Ellipses are touching the 4 Sides, but again: lines are wobbly and the ellipse in general a bit bumpy

• Rough perspective: The Boxes have some "sketchy" lines. Multiple lines that merge to a longer line.

It is very important to understand that Lesson 1 is not about accuracy. The overall goal of Lesson one is to achive confidence in your lines. It should be one, swift motion.

So to help you trying to fix the wobbliness:

• Speed up your drawing - especially the gosted line exercise. Ghost your lines, then execute in one confident and fast motion. If you miss the mark (wrong direction, or too short/too long lines) don't worry. This is intended! Smooth motions are way more important than hitting the dots.

• Pay attention to drawing from your shoulder.

• Before you draw, relax! (Tension in your muscles will cause bumpy lines as well)

I suggest watching the Videos from uncomfortable, he explains it there and the video might be more understanding for you as he shows in real time, what he means.

Be confident! Be fast! :)

I wouldn't say you need to submit another whole page. Maybe do it (like two funnels) as your warmup tomorrow and send it as a reply here. Just wanna see that you can very the degree. The rest is done with Ellipses in Planes exercise integrated into your daily warmup :)

Congrats on completing lesson 1! (although a page of Table of Ellipses is missing, maybe you forgot to attach it?)

So let's talk about the submission-parts:

Lines

Superimposed lines look good. Clearly defined starting point, fraying only at one end, Lines are smooth and confident without wobbles. Some inaccuracy and slight curving, but that's a matter of practice and time.

Ghosted lines and Ghosted planes: Similar to superimposed lines. Clear, swift strokes in one clean motion. Lines are confident, which is main goal of lesson 1. Some slight curving here and there, but not too much to worry about as this will smooth out with practice. Also some inaccuracy where you missed the mark (wrong trajectory or over-/undershot a little). Same here: practice makes perfect.

Ellipses

As I already mentioned on page of Table of Ellipses is missing, please post it as a comment.

Overall the lines are smooth with confident strokes. What I do notice, ist that a lot of your ellipses look a bit "bumpy". (see here what I mean). This can be caused by three things:

• Tension in your arm (when drawing a bumpy ellipses ask yourself if your arm was relaxed while drawing.)

• Focusing too much on accuracy (can be subconscious, and basically causes tension/stiffnes in you shoulder. Just thinking "I really want to nail the ellipse" can cause this.)

• wrong drawing speed (draw a bit faster or slower, see if that helps a bit with the overall shape - I was drawing too fast in the beginning. After realizing this, the ellipses improved quite a bit)

If it's none of this, then it's a matter of practice. Do Ellipse practice daily to improve eventually.

Funnel Exercise is good, the degree is getting wider for outer ellipses, and the minor axis is usually quite well aligned.

Something else I noticed: some Ellipses look like they've been drawn through too often. (4 times?) Could be wrong, as seeing through a lot of lines can be tricky, but try to stick to exactly two full rounds.

Boxes

Plotted perspective: well done. Lines converge nicely at the VP, shading is clean, looks very nice over all.

Rough perspective: Lines are mostly very clean, which is good. In some cases you tried to correct your false lines ... don't do that ;) Just leave errors, Lesson one is not about being precise, it's about linework.

Also, for the extended lines, don't go further than the horizon line. It makes it a bit harder to analyse as there are suddenly a lot of lines intersecting.

Overall you didn't quite good, of course is missed in a lot of cases and sometimes they hit the horizon pretty far away. That's pretty normal in the beginning and will come more natural with more experience in perspective. (250 Boxes will help there)

Organic perspective is pretty nice, you understood how boxes shrink with increasing distance. Also you did realise sometimes when the lines didn't converge properly and corrected it. Shows me that you understand 3D Space quite well already.

Rotated Boxes: Rotations are not perfect (expecially the very outer Boxes in the corner) but it's pretty good already. This will probably be easier after the 250 Box challenge.

Only thing I'll critisize here is the big gaps between the lines. (See feedback) Try keep 'em closer to each other.

Also take a look at this, as this also happened in the exercise.

Overall the submission is pretty good, you did a good job!

Keep up the good work :)

I'm not really agreeing here ... (at least not with everything).

I don't really see fraying on both sides in the superimposed lines exercise. When working with Ink, starting at the same point multiple times, it'll create a kind of dot as the ink spreads a bit, but I really wouldn't call this fraying. (I might be wrong here, but judging something like this is pretty difficult from only pictures ...).

Ellipses are actually fine. Goal of Lesson one is NOT perfect accuracy it's about smooth and confident linework, which is done pretty well to be honest. The overlapping, as you called it, is a result of focusing on smoothness rather then accuracy, which is how it should be. Increased accuracy will come over time with practice!

Regarding the funnel exercise ... there are some pointy lines, yes, but overall the linework is smooth and confident. Drawing from the shoulder, especially in the beginning, is quite difficult and most people are not used to, which can sometimes cause bumbs and sudden changes of trajectory as your brain tries to correct. Maybe there's some tension in the shoulder causing this, so ask yourself if you were relaxed when this happens.

What I think is wrong about the funnel exercise is that you didn't increase the degree of the ellipses and that they are not always aligned with the minor axis. But also here: the alignment isn't too bad actually. It's more the same degree that is false. Look here with what I mean.

Rotated Boxes is not too bad ... the repeated lines you critisized is lineweight. Due to missing accuracy with ghosted lines though it looks like multiple lines in some cases. This is not bad, it's actually something very good!

-> Work on the ghosted lines. Accuracy (and therefore better lineweight) will come with time.

What you needed to pay more attention too in this exercise is the distance of neighboured lines. Some of them are quite far away (the boxes kinda drifting off into space). Take a look at the feedback picture.

The rotations itself are quite fine.

Rough perspective: well yeah, the lines should be parallel to the horizon or perpendicular. But same here: I think the issue is more the (currently) missing accuracy.

Plotted perspective is relly good, Organic perspective is pretty well done too. :)

Suggestion: Main focus of your wamup should be accuracy of ghosted lines. Ellipses in planes will help you practice ghosted lines accuracy as well as ellipse accuracy, so integrated that often into your warmup.

I agree with funnels being done again, as the intention of increasing the degree was missed. But that's all in my opinion.

Sure thing!

Don't know why the link didn't work.

here is the new one: https://imgur.com/a/7iXK8ow

You're welcome!

And if the critique helped you understand mistakes and therefore understanding of what needs to be practiced, it fullfilled it's purpose :) (So I guess I can be happy for today :D)

Understanding the fundamentals is extremely important, which is why I take so much time for it and write quite detailed descriptions. (Keep that in mind in case you critique work on your own. Giving lot's of Ideas/hints/... helps the person to understand more easily)

Happy I could help!

Hey Akarumei,

first of all, congrats on completing lesson 1, first step is achieved! Second, there's actually not too much about your work to be critisized, it's overall a pretty solid submission.

Lesson 1 is mostly about confident linework, which is clearly visible here!

Lines

There's a clearly defined starting point in the superimposed lines exercise, fraying only at one end, which is good. The lines are also smooth and confident. Getting them more straight and precise will come with practice.

The Ghosted Lines also look good. Confident, smooth, and swift strokes and the lines are straight in a lot of occasions. The few slight curves will be fixed with time and practice. What I do notice is that in quite a lot of these lines they fade away towards the end because you start lifting your pen too early. Try to draw the line until you reach your mark, then lift off the pen. If you overshoot a bit in the beginning, that's no big deal, put pay attention to it. (Also, there are a bunch of lines where it did work perfectly fine)

The same applies for your ghosted planes.

Ellipses

Not much to complain about either. Ellipses are properly drawn through, lines are smooth and confident. Getting the accuracy into the ellipses and thightening them more is again a matter of practice. Ellipses in the funnel exercise are well aligned, there are like 2-3 three where the minor axis is off a bit (talking about some of the outer ones), but that's no big deal, it's still pretty clean. Well done.

Boxes

Plotted prespctive: Clean work, the lines converge nicely at the VPs, hatching is done well, so solid work here.

Rough Perspective: Lines have been drawn with a confident stroke. Only thing to mention here is that you tried to cover up mistakes with redrawing the lines. Don't do that. If you miss a line, there's no problem with that, this is what the exercises are about: failing the lines from time to time to steadily improve. We work in Ink to spot our mistakes easily. We want to see them. So don't bother about it if a line is too short or missed the mark. Just leave it and move on ;)

When plotting back the lines it becomes visible that estimating the perspective lines of the boxes is still difficult for you, as some of the guide-lines are quite far from the VP. Pretty common in the Beginning, it'll become more natural with practice.

Organic Perspective: Again, confident an clean linework, which is good. Also, you understood that boxes become smaller with increasing distance. The only thing that's off is the convergence of the lines. Often, your lines diverge instead of converge, leading to some weird box shapes. I suggest you take a closer look on how to construct boxes in 3-Point-Perspective (this will also be necessary for the 250 Box challenge, which is up next).

rotated Boxes: Good job on this exercise. The Boxes are all drawn through properly and the linework is clean and confident. Some of the inner planes don't really match up with the outer planes, but this exercise is pretty difficult so I think that's fine.

I usually provide some visual feedback when giving critiques, to help people understand better what I mean.

Take a look at this, it might help you.

All in all a solid submission. Well Done.