# Allipses

## allipses's Sketchbook

##### 12:01 AM, Tuesday January 18th 2022

Thank you so much for the advice given, Here, these are my attempts at revising the work I've done. Thanks in advance!

##### 6:35 PM, Tuesday January 11th 2022

Sorry for the late response, but here I am. These are much much better! You still have some divergence by the end but I do notice you improved alot and are converging more than diverging, only thing I reccomend is (and I should've mentioned this in my initial critique) is you could do to try and make some more unique boxes. This guide gives a good reference on all the different angles a box could be at, but don't directly copy them, just make sure the initial Y isn't below 90 degrees and try new things. Another way to mix up boxes is the length of your initial Y when you draw them, making one line shorter and another longer. And one last variation is you could use to do more dramatic foreshortening in your boxes, where lines converge alot shorter, I'm seeing alot of shallow convergences in a majority of your boxes.

Next Steps:

You're free to go onto Lesson 2, just remember what I've told you and what you've learned so far as you continue one. Good luck and have fun!

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##### 6:24 PM, Tuesday January 11th 2022

Don't worry about it too much, just remember this part of the boxes section on lesson 1 and keep that in mind, plus what you've learned doing boxes

##### 3:06 AM, Thursday December 2nd 2021

Thank you so much for the advice, I'll try not to rush so much later on. My current fineliners aren't the best in which they fade out during long lines but not short ones, so that's where the arrows hard to see come from. I did notice I wasn't doing my best during these but I also didn't want to retry what I failed at and end up grinding so it felt like resignation and compromise on my own end. But once again I thank you for letting me continue and complete this lesson, I'll trust the fact you see I'm ready to move forward despite the fumbling.

##### 5:29 PM, Thursday November 11th 2021
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##### 11:07 PM, Tuesday November 2nd 2021

Congrats on finishing Lesson 1! You're already one step closer to learning the fundamentals of drawing, give yourself a pat on the back and a smile, I'll be taking the helm of critiquing your work!

Lines

Your initial planes you drew over with ellipses were slightly sloppy, but other than that you seem to execute your marks with enough confidence for the lesson. Your lines seem to sometimes arch, make sure you're remembering to use your shoulder when you ghost and mark out your lines, and if you are then you should try arching them in the oppisite direction so that they course correct back into place.

Ellipses

These need more work to them. It's clear you lack confidence in them even if you're remembering to draw through them a second time, and they seem to consistently have empty space between them and the borders you draw them in. When ghosting, take as much time as you need until you feel fully comfortable and ready to put down the mark you intended to.

Boxes

Remember that when it comes to 1 and 2 point perspective, lines that don't have a vp on the page converge infinitely parallel such as the height lines in 1pp and the height and width lines in 2pp. Some of your height lines in the rough perspective exercise skew off a little bit instead of being perpendicular to the horizon line. Take your time in this exercise and think through the perspective. When a box rotates, lines going to a vanishing point converge further away on one side, and get closer on the other. Remember this as you do the rotated box challenge, some of the boxes looked to be heading to the same vp instead of actually rotating further.

Next Steps:

Move onto the 250 Box Challenge, this will help you as you practice making your marks and taking your time to think out problems regarding drawing in space. Good luck, and have fun!

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##### 9:51 PM, Tuesday November 2nd 2021

Congrats on making it through the box challenge! I'll be taking the helm of your critique.

So first of all let's get the elephant out of the room, your convergences. They're not awful. Most of the time you manage to get them to converge even if the rates happen to be different like in your first boxes. But you still manage to create divergences instead of convergences and sometimes they just come out parallel. Remember that even though the actual box itself is made of parallel lines, perspective affects the box and makes those lines converge to a single point.. Three point perspective boxes have every vp converging, it's not like 1 point or 2 point where some are infinitely parallel. You should follow this guide for a better step by step understanding on how to make sure your lines always converge.

Your lines are a bit wobbly but that's fine, you're still adjusting to using the shoulder (even though you should've been making sure to use it rather than the elbow from the start of lesson 1), just make sure to apply more confidence in the future.

An additional thing you started to do but began to avoid which I appreciate, was creating correction arrows on your early boxes. This is unnecessary, the extension lines should be all you need to correct yourself if you went wrong somewhere. Drawing too many lines rather than what you need will impede your learning and just make you more confused. try to avoid doing these in the future as mentioned just now, they're unneeded and not part of the challenge nor your learning.

Next Steps:

I'm going to ask that you draw 30 additional boxes. Use it to try using your shoulder more, and take in the advice I gave you to make sure your lines all converge correctly. Have fun, and good luck! and once again, great job on getting this far, you're doing great!

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##### 3:01 PM, Tuesday November 2nd 2021

Hiya, welcome to your first step in the DrawAbox course! I'll be taking the helm of giving you your critique today.

Lines

Gotta be honest, these are extremely wobbly and poor. There is rarely any sense of confidence I can feel from them and more just complete hesitation when you should've been ghosting them, that was the whole point of the exercise. This extends to the planes aswell, complete wobble of the pen in your strokes.

Ellipses

The wobble in these are less noticable but despite they're still present at times. There's atleast more possible evidence you tried to ghost these, and you also drew through your ellipses a second time so that's a good job on your end. You also have some space where the ellipse doesn't reach the edges of the space it's meant to fill, but that comes with time.

Boxes

Funny enough, you actually seem to shine in these. Your rough perspective consistently reaches the vanishing point in a reasonable manner, and your rotated boxes are a very solid attempt even if the very outer edges start to fall apart at the corners and some corners could be closer.

Next Steps:

You really need to work on those lines, and also you didn't do the Organic perspective exercise like at all. So, I ask of you to do:

1 additional page of Ghosted Lines

1 additional page of Ghosted Planes

and a full submission of Organic Perspective

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##### 2:16 PM, Tuesday November 2nd 2021

Hi there! Congrats on making it through the crucible, you've trudged through many days of drawing boxes and checking your VPs after many pages, you should feel proud! I'll be critiquing your boxes today, and to start I wanna talk about the good:

You have a solid enough grasp on making confident lines in a certain direction without wobble, and your hatching shows you took your time and didn't rush your work, they're neat and confident with VERY little straying. Your extensions were all good from the start but there has been occasional straying accidentally in the other direction I've noticed (not too major of a habit, just boxes 3 and 5 seemed to do it), just remember the convergences go in the other direction. Your variation could be a little better, alot more views from the top than anything + mostly thin boxes, try mixing up the lengths of the initial Y lines to be more equal more often for diversity, and trying more orientations. This Image should help you get an idea of other orientations you should get inspired from (don't copy them directly though!).

Next Steps:

You're welcome to go straight on ahead to Lesson 2 if you feel like it, but if you want additional challenge you can try the advanced exercises of the box challenge, though you're by no means obligated to it. Just remember to add boxes into your warm-ups, great job and good luck!

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##### 6:51 PM, Monday November 1st 2021

Thank you, but I think I have to mention I JUST finished my 250 Box Challenge + Lesson 2, this was just me reposting the inital L1 work I've done since it was initally critiqued in the Discord back in 2019, not here since this system wasn't in there then. Regardless, I thank you for looking at where I'm at and where I need to go since then. I'll keep this in mind during my warmups and try to do better!

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