Alby

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    2:11 AM, Monday March 1st 2021

    Good work completing this challenge!

    Your lines are all very confidently drawn. Even your earliest boxes have this on full display. While hatching lines on one side of the box was an optional part of the challenge, it was a requirement for you to apply line weight to your boxes' outer edges. This is something I noticed was particularly lacking in your submission.

    The foreshortening on your boxes is present, but even the later boxes seem to have obvious problems with certain faces' trajectories. While confident line strokes are the bedrock for building effective fundamentals (and of which is something you've doubtlessly got in spades), don't be afraid to take as much time as you need to measure your lines before you draw them. Make sure you're witnessing the vanishing points in your mind, make and correct marks on the page to guide your lines, and then lay the lines down.

    Remember when drawing in three-point-perspective, you're not going to have any sets of parallel lines. Some of your last boxes still had problems where pairs of extended lines appear to be nearly or completely parallel, notably pairs of lines on the same side of a box that are across from the longer line.

    If you're having trouble figuring out how to properly envision your vanishing points when drawing boxes, ScyllaStew uploaded a video that may prove useful. After drawing your initial "Y" with each box, make sure each of your lines afterward all line up with that side's vanishing point, even the lines that are being drawn on the invisible back corner. This video really helped me change my own mindset for this challenge, so perhaps it may be helpful for you in some way too.

    Finally, something I noticed in your submission is that you drew more than six boxes per page. If you have too many boxes on a single page, you're limited in the length of the lines you put down on the page. This means you can only draw one or two large boxes per page at most, meaning you have less practice with drawing larger boxes in perspective. Beyond even just boxes alone, larger objects drawn in perspective tend to have vanishing points that are farther away than smaller objects, so it would behoove you to try out drawing some larger boxes for this challenge.

    Next Steps:

    I'd like you to draw me 30 more boxes across 5 pages. This means 6 boxes to fill each page. While you're doing this, be sure to take your time and line up all four face lines up with the corresponding vanishing point. Remember, your line extensions after drawing your box shouldn't have any sets of parallel lines in three-point-perspective!

    Reply to this post with your extra boxes in their own album so I can critique your work further!

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
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    1:42 AM, Monday March 1st 2021

    Nice work getting through this challenge. It couldn't have been something that was done quickly, evidenced by the differences between line extension colors throughout your submission.

    Your lines got much cleaner as you went through the challenge. That's excellent, but I also noticed that line weight for each of the boxes seemed to be heavier within boxes instead of outside of boxes in even some of your final boxes of the challenge. This could be evidence that you were repeating lines a bit. If this is the case, I'd advise against doing it in the future since it doesn't promote confidence in your strokes. Remember to ghost your lines and draw from the shoulder.

    This is a minor nitpick with an optional part of the challenge, but when you were hatching the single face of your boxes, there is fraying on both ends of each hatching line. The lines are supposed to connect the edges of the box, so just like in the Superimposed Lines exercise from Lesson 1, you should be starting at one end (the side of the box) and confidently making a stroke to the other end.

    You handled the foreshortening nicely. I don't notice any real problems with it, so that's good.

    Did you know that Imgur allows you to rearrange the order of the images in your album? Check the panel at top of your submission.

    Next Steps:

    Looks good. I think you're ready for Lesson 2.

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    10:35 AM, Sunday February 28th 2021

    Excellent work getting through this challenge. Cliche comments or not, I don't doubt it took a while to get this done and finishing it is certainly something to feel good about!

    All your lines are very confidently drawn and all of the boxes past the first page seem to have varying amounts of foreshortening applied to every point of perspective. This is great! The line weight was a nice touch as well, but just be careful that your line weight is drawn in with confident strokes as well, as some of the lines have varying amounts of weight along the same line. Remember, confidence builds accuracy!

    The trajectories of your extended lines definitely made a noticeable improvement as you went through the challenge. This remains the case regardless of whether a box is drawn with shallow or dramatic foreshortening, which is also great.

    A noteworthy problem that I have with your submission is that there were more than six boxes on each page. With less boxes on a page, there's more space on each page dedicated to each individual box. By drawing larger boxes, it forces you to look further away towards a vanishing point, especially when the foreshortening is shallow. If you're not comfortable with drawing larger objects in proper perspective, it may be a challenge later on for you.

    Next Steps:

    I would like you to draw me 18 more boxes across 3 pages. This means I'd like you to fill 3 pages with 6 boxes each. I imagine that with how you handled the boxes you've already submitted, this shouldn't really be too much work; I just think that you should make sure to yourself that you're prepared enough to draw larger objects in perspective.

    Great work otherwise, though! Please reply to this comment with your additional boxes and I'll give further notes!

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
    10:03 AM, Sunday February 28th 2021

    Yeah, I kind of realized after I was critiquing other box challenges that I definitely did not do any foreshortening on my boxes. It makes a lot of sense now why I had no idea which direction to extend my lines. Thanks for the review; the video link you sent from ScyllaStew was very helpful in demonstrating an effective way to draw boxes.

    How are these boxes? I mostly stuck to shallow foreshortening with these ones but I did experiment a bit with dramatic foreshortening as well.

    It unfortunately only occurred to me now that I should have just added the line extensions to the end of the boxes instead of drawing over the entirety of the boxes' lines with my pens. I deeply apologize for this. If you request it, I can draw more boxes with the extended lines not drawn over the original boxes.

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    2:39 AM, Monday February 8th 2021

    Six months without a critique!? I'm so sorry nobody ever got to your submission!

    All of these boxes seem pretty close to pristine. Very clean work, accurate hatching, and best of all, very confident marks that aren't re-drawn. There's even very few marks on the page, meaning you knew exactly where to place your points when making lines.

    Even the one critique I could have made of how the invisible edge of the early boxes is quickly fixed in the later boxes.

    All in all, extremely great work!

    Next Steps:

    I'm fairly certain by now you've already moved on to later work, but just in case you haven't, you're definitely ready for Lesson 2!

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    2:28 AM, Monday February 8th 2021

    It has to be said, there's just so much improvement that you experience throughout the entire challenge!

    The earliest boxes all had nary a straight line to them, but as things went on, the lines got straighter and straighter. Likewise, your understanding of 3D space showed a marked improvement, with many of your later boxes having the unseen corner drawn much more reasonably than the earlier ones.

    Just comparing the first page to the last page of your challenge shows how far you've come throughout the challenge. Great job!

    A minor nitpick that I have is that your hatching lines aren't single, clean lines from one edge of the box to the other. Do be sure to use the ghosting method when drawing hatching lines and to follow through the entire box side.

    Next Steps:

    Keep up the good work! I think you're ready for lesson 2!

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    2:18 AM, Monday February 8th 2021

    The slog is over! Congrats on getting 250 boxes drawn; that couldn't have been something done in a day!

    Most of these boxes seem to be drawn very clearly in third-point perspective, so great job there. There's also only a few incorrect contour lines, so you seem to firmly grasp the concepts of vanishing points.

    Something that I think you should be more wary of though is the practice of redrawing lines on your boxes. I know how it feels when you make a mark and you immediately know it's not right; I've done it plenty of times on my own 250 Box Challenge and I too have immediately made a new, more correct mark in its place. This is a noticeable thing in your submission, though, as practically every page has crossed-out and redrawn lines. I even noticed a completely crossed-out box around the 150 mark (that poor thing!).

    This issue is likely just an issue with confidence in your lines. Either that, or it has to do with not having enough patience when making marks. Don't be afraid to slow down a bit and visualize where your mark should go. And even if you make a mistake, try not to get upset and redraw the mark; yes, it's incorrect, but as ol' Bob Ross used to say, "we don't make mistakes, just happy little accidents."

    Next Steps:

    Great work on this challenge! I think you're ready for Lesson 2!

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    3:25 AM, Wednesday January 27th 2021

    1) Super-Imposed Lines

    Some of the lines seem to be overlapping with other ones, like these here. Other than that, they seem to be neatly drawn. Something I noticed is the lack of any really long, straight lines. Don't be afraid to try drawing super-imposed lines that take up the width of the page (or at least near to that)!

    2) Ghosted Lines

    Whoa, that's a lot of ghosted lines! They seem very straight, which is good, but I still see a lack of really long lines. The longer lines really test just how straight your strokes can be, so it's important to draw some really long lines, too. Otherwise, great work.

    3) Ghosted Planes

    I don't see anything really wrong with this one; great work! A few of the boxes have a second stroke through them and there are parts where the planes don't seem too different in shape from the ones next to them, but besides those minor gripes, this is really well-done.

    4) Tables of Ellipses

    I think I'm starting to see a bit of a pattern here; don't be afraid to draw really large shapes! I also see some whitespace that can easily be filled with another ellipse, like here on page 2. Do be careful not to change the angle of your ellipses to fit a larger ellipse in a space. You should probably just opt for a smaller ellipse that matches the angle of the others, like in this part here on page 2.

    5) Ellipses in Planes

    I don't see any mistakes with this one; good job!

    6) Funnels

    Very nice work here, too! The funnel at the bottom right corner seems to change its axis a bit near the bottom, though. Nice work on the optional "double-funnels" though!

    7) Plotted Perspective

    Great work with this one, I've got no criticisms!

    8) Rough Perspective

    Many of the trajectories throughout the entire exercise don't seem to come anywhere near the vanishing point. I understand that the perspective is supposed to be rough and unmeasured, but don't be afraid to eyeball the vanishing point and try and draw a measured line in your mind before you make your mark. As for the boxes themselves, they seem moderately straight-lined for freehanded marks. Keep in mind, however, that when drawing in one-point perspective, horizontal and vertical lines among all boxes should be going in the same direction, so take a bit of time to make sure you're more accurately mirroring the trajectories of the other lines next to them. [This]https://i.imgur.com/iK9XFAN.png) is a good example of vertical lines that should be straighter!

    9) Rotated Boxes

    There's a lot of asymmetry in this exercise, but this exercise was designed to be very challenging so that's okay. There seems to be a lot more boxes drawn than what was expected, namely these boxes. Besides that, though, good work getting through this one! Like how Uncomfortable says, though, it's probably a good idea to take on the 250 Box Challenge before the next lesson is started.

    10) Organic Perspective

    A lot of overlapping boxes is good! I also notice a lot of empty space between boxes, though, most noticeably here on page one. I think you could have made a large chain of overlapping boxes if you slapped another one here. Many of the boxes drawn don't seem to make the most of the curvature of the line at places, but perhaps that's because of the relative size of the boxes currently being drawn in the frame. Examples of this are here on page 1 and here on page 2. If you want to fit more boxes to trajectories but it's too large at that point, draw a large box anyways! You'll have more boxes on the page (which is good) and you'll have more boxes that overlap (also good!)

    Next Steps:

    I personally think that you should try doing the rough perspective pages again. There's definitely a lot of guessing being done with the vanishing point. While it's not as much of a problem, try and keep your vertical and horizontal lines straighter if you choose to re-do this one.

    Besides this, great work! Don't be afraid to make large marks on the page, too!

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    2:45 AM, Wednesday January 27th 2021

    1) Super-Imposed Lines

    Both pages have confident, unwavering lines which was the key to the first exercise. There is a noticeable curvature to the lines drawn, but that can be fixed. Looks great!

    2) Ghosted Lines

    Much of the curvature from Super-Imposed Lines seems to be gone in this exercise. This is a really well-done exercise. It's just a bit of a shame that there's a bit of ink bleed from another exercise through the page, causing some initial confusion as to where your points were plotted. I don't see any other problems with it though.

    3) Ghosted Planes + Ellipses

    I can say through my own recent experience that ellipses are really difficult to draw, so even though they may appear messy to the naked eye, this is a really good job for a first attempt at containing ellipses in boxes. As for the boxes that contain them, the wobbliness from 1) seems to have returned at some points, most noticeably with

    this box here. Besides the curvy linework at times, not a bad attempt at all.

    4) Tables of Ellipses

    There is a noticeable amount of space between the first two circles, with space empty space existing in smaller amounts in various other parts of the exercise. Consistency is a difficult thing to get right with circles and ellipses, so for the most part this can likely be excused. Overall a very well-done piece of work here.

    5) Funnels

    I don't have any particular gripes with this one. I'd have to agree with Bobbee with the slightly scrunched middle ellipses, but besides that I don't think anyone could say anything bad about this one. Very nicely done.

    6) Plotted Perspectives

    Yep, agreeing with Bobbee here, too. Very clean.

    7) Rough Perspective:

    Your boxes are clean for the most part but there's definitely a noticeable mistake here in the first page. Mistakes are annoying but since you're using fineliners, trying to correct them only makes them more obvious. Very nice work on the trajectories, however; they're very close to the vanishing point.

    8) Rotated Boxes

    Ah, the "challenge" exercise for this lesson. All the lines are very clean and the extra touch of shading is nice and gives it some nice depth. This was supposed to be a difficult exercise and you seem to have completed it like it was nothing. This isn't a criticism, but the only thing I noticed was that one of the sides was missing the hatching that the rest of the boxes' sides had. Amazing work, though!

    9) Organic Perspective

    Very clean lines and very well done maintaining the perspective here. Like Bobbee said, though, I can definitely see a lack of overlapping boxes in this exercise, which Uncomfortable cited as one of the things he really wanted to see in this exercise. This box on the second part of the first page is a bit large compared to the ones before it, though. This is the only one of its kind, though. Very nice work!

    Next Steps:

    You seem to be rapidly improving on your line straightness! Keep up the good work!

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    1:04 AM, Friday January 22nd 2021

    That makes sense. Thanks for the response.

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